[IxDA Discuss] Anybody interested in an Agile+UCD best practice sharing session in the SF Area in July?

[Jarod Tang]

Hi Andrew Sandler:
   you through out a interesting topic, which was dicussed in the mail list
some time ago. i can present some ideas though  cant join ining your
session.

The  more I discussed Design and Agile, the more I realized that there are a
> number of best practices for development, but less for design.
>
this is true, some time we mix the software design or ui design with the
interaction design, which cost us a lot of time. nearly all agile
development process addressed the software design instead of ixd.
and on the other hand, some designer, such as cooper, give  suggestions as
design before programming(design first), which try to fix the problem of
blind developing, but there's some critisize such as (which is also a
interesting link for ixd vs agile dicussion):
http://www.robbyonrails.com/articles/2006/08/30/agile-interaction-design

for me this points looks like this
1. the human's coginitive is iterative, which means we cant see every thing
before some try and fix (need agile)
2. if we let somethings un-clear , we may keep the big risk(need design
before software developing)
the agile and interaction developing should have a balance points, ;-),
which lie's at the Brooks's great contribution:
Conceptual Integraty
Means that the related guys come to the point that they know what's the
thing to be build though they may not very clear about every detail. from
here, we can merge the agile and interaction design more comfortably.
1. design to get the integrate concept (interated), after that development
can start (agile programming, such as xp try to ignore this , ;-) )
2. interate to implement the designed part, to test it (by focus group of
user's feedback)
3. go back to 1 if required

Cheers
-- Jarod



On 6/11/07, Andrew Sandler <andrew.sandler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone -
>     My name is Andrew Sandler, and I manage the User Interface Design team
> at Salesforce.com.  Last October we made an organizational-wide switch to
> Agile Development Methodologies, based mainly on Scrum.  We did two small
> releases that were "finished" under ADM, and we're wrapping up our first
> end-to-end Agile release very soon.  As part of my education, I've had a
> number of interesting conversations with people on and off this list.  The
> more I discussed Design and Agile, the more I realized that there are a
> number of best practices for development, but less for design.  To that
> end,
> I'm volunteering to host a day-long working session for design
> practitioners
> (UI, IA, Usability, etc.) at our offices in San Mateo at the end of July.
> This isn't intended to be a gripe session (although I'm sure we can fit
> one
> in), but rather a sharing of what works for you in your company.  Any
> non-proprietary artifacts and deliverables are welcome.  I'm assuming that
> we'd have an IA / Design track, and a Usability track but I'm open to any
> great ideas.  Anybody interested?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew Sandler
> Manager, UI Design
> Salesforce.com
> asandler at salesforce.com
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