[IxDA Discuss] Now Hiring Leonardo DaVinci?

Sun Oct 1 19:28:43 PDT 2006

In most dialects of American English, guys is gender neutral, guy is male.
See
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/guy
or
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/guy

Most women do take offense at being refered to as "a guy" or "you guy".

Robin

On 10/1/06, Mark Schraad <mschraad at mac.com> wrote:
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> If I walk into a room and try and get the attention of the group and
> say, "hey guys" - or if I am addressing a group of people and say,
> "you guys" - I don't think of it in gender terms. Maybe that is my
> bad - but having worked in the graphics field (which is definitely
> not male dominated) I don't use the term as gender specific.
>
> Sorry if you were offended Chris... but you're way off based if you
> think I am referring to males only - or that only males can do the job.
>
> Mark
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>
>
> On Oct 1, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Christine Boese wrote:
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> > Why is it they would only be looking for an "omni GUY" or "a super
> > flexible
> > multi-talented GUY" ??!!
> >
> > No wonder women have such a hard time breaking into male dominated
> > fields,
> > if recruiters and hiring agents are only looking for positions that by
> > definition can only be filled by men.
> >
> > Chris Boese
> >
> > On 9/28/06, mark Schraad <mschraad at mac.com> wrote:
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> >> I completely agree. Most of these ads are looking for the omni guy
> >> - or
> >> super flexible multi talented guy. Is the fear of HR that they
> >> don't really
> >> know how to assess and hire a good designer? Might they not get
> >> approval for
> >> spending a decent amount on a mere designer? If they through some
> >> production
> >> or development utility they might just get this hire approved?
> >>
> >> It is curious to me the pressure being put on seasoned interactive or
> >> experience designers that do not have a masters degree, yet have
> >> 10 years
> >> expereince doing it right.
> >>
> >> But I also understand the struggles of the small firm. Hiring a
> >> full time
> >> person is sometimes a challenge - when you only have a half a
> >> person worth
> >> of work, yet you want a long term profession that really knows
> >> their stuff.
> >>
> >> Mark Schraad
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thursday, September 28, 2006, at 08:01AM, jackbellis.com <
> >> jackbellis at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>
> >>> Bottom-line question: "As our rapidly increasing technology
> >>> produces more
> >>> multi-powered individuals, are companies any more justified in
> >>> trying to
> >>> hire artists who also code?"
> >>>
> >>> I've always been fascinated by ads for someone who can do both
> >>> graphic
> >>> design and, in his or her spare time "reengineer our world-wide
> >>> network
> >>> topology" (loose allusion to an old Dilbert). Below is a reduced
> >>> version
> >> of
> >>> the ad that prompted this. I particularly like the juxtaposition
> >>> of "B/A
> >>> degree... illustration...Ajax... Extreme Programming Practices." I
> >>> understand that on this list, a few (10? 100? 1000?) such marvels
> >>> exist.
> >> And
> >>> I understand that small companies are, well, small, and many of
> >>> us in
> >> orgs
> >>> of all size contribute to all roles in some regard.
> >>>
> >>> But I've always considered it idiotic to expect to have your
> >>> branding
> >> done
> >>> by your ASP guy, and we all know this is probably under US$50K. I'd
> >> advise
> >>> any small company to use an agency of some sort if they need
> >>> Leonardo,
> >> but
> >>> that's not my question.  My question is, with our newer, very
> >>> talented
> >> young
> >>> folks, is this becoming a more realistic expectation of them and/
> >>> or the
> >>> employee market??? I'm doubtful.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> www.jackbellis.com
> >>>
> >>> Required:
> >>> Ability to develop web site graphics from scratch
> >>> Experience with ... ASP scripting.
> >>> Bachelor of Art (B/A) degree in Graphic/Web Design .
> >>>
> >>> Ideal:
> >>>
> >>> Ability to create illustrations
> >>> Experience with coding in JavaScript and using Ajax
> >>> Experience with print design and color separation
> >>> Experience creating brand identities
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Responsibilities
> >>>
> >>> Design print ads, online ads, and associated site landing pages
> >>> under
> >> tight
> >>> deadlines.
> >>> Design, code, and standardize landing page,using HTML, CSS, and ASP.
> >>> Engage in detailed quality assurance activities that include
> >>> proofing
> >> copy
> >>> Maintain internal documentation
> >>> Assisting with creation of brand identity materials.
> >>> Adhere to Extreme Programming practices
> >>> Collaborate with vendors and outside parties as needed for
> >>> support or
> >> design
> >>> initiatives.
> >>>
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> > christine boese
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