[IxDA Discuss] Now Hiring Leonardo DaVinci?

Sun Oct 1 19:16:00 PDT 2006

If I walk into a room and try and get the attention of the group and  
say, "hey guys" - or if I am addressing a group of people and say,  
"you guys" - I don't think of it in gender terms. Maybe that is my  
bad - but having worked in the graphics field (which is definitely  
not male dominated) I don't use the term as gender specific.

Sorry if you were offended Chris... but you're way off based if you  
think I am referring to males only - or that only males can do the job.

Mark

On Oct 1, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Christine Boese wrote:

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> Why is it they would only be looking for an "omni GUY" or "a super  
> flexible
> multi-talented GUY" ??!!
>
> No wonder women have such a hard time breaking into male dominated  
> fields,
> if recruiters and hiring agents are only looking for positions that by
> definition can only be filled by men.
>
> Chris Boese
>
> On 9/28/06, mark Schraad <mschraad at mac.com> wrote:
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>> I completely agree. Most of these ads are looking for the omni guy  
>> - or
>> super flexible multi talented guy. Is the fear of HR that they  
>> don't really
>> know how to assess and hire a good designer? Might they not get  
>> approval for
>> spending a decent amount on a mere designer? If they through some  
>> production
>> or development utility they might just get this hire approved?
>>
>> It is curious to me the pressure being put on seasoned interactive or
>> experience designers that do not have a masters degree, yet have  
>> 10 years
>> expereince doing it right.
>>
>> But I also understand the struggles of the small firm. Hiring a  
>> full time
>> person is sometimes a challenge - when you only have a half a  
>> person worth
>> of work, yet you want a long term profession that really knows  
>> their stuff.
>>
>> Mark Schraad
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 28, 2006, at 08:01AM, jackbellis.com <
>> jackbellis at hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Bottom-line question: "As our rapidly increasing technology  
>>> produces more
>>> multi-powered individuals, are companies any more justified in  
>>> trying to
>>> hire artists who also code?"
>>>
>>> I've always been fascinated by ads for someone who can do both  
>>> graphic
>>> design and, in his or her spare time "reengineer our world-wide  
>>> network
>>> topology" (loose allusion to an old Dilbert). Below is a reduced  
>>> version
>> of
>>> the ad that prompted this. I particularly like the juxtaposition  
>>> of "B/A
>>> degree... illustration...Ajax... Extreme Programming Practices." I
>>> understand that on this list, a few (10? 100? 1000?) such marvels  
>>> exist.
>> And
>>> I understand that small companies are, well, small, and many of  
>>> us in
>> orgs
>>> of all size contribute to all roles in some regard.
>>>
>>> But I've always considered it idiotic to expect to have your  
>>> branding
>> done
>>> by your ASP guy, and we all know this is probably under US$50K. I'd
>> advise
>>> any small company to use an agency of some sort if they need  
>>> Leonardo,
>> but
>>> that's not my question.  My question is, with our newer, very  
>>> talented
>> young
>>> folks, is this becoming a more realistic expectation of them and/ 
>>> or the
>>> employee market??? I'm doubtful.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> www.jackbellis.com
>>>
>>> Required:
>>> Ability to develop web site graphics from scratch
>>> Experience with ... ASP scripting.
>>> Bachelor of Art (B/A) degree in Graphic/Web Design .
>>>
>>> Ideal:
>>>
>>> Ability to create illustrations
>>> Experience with coding in JavaScript and using Ajax
>>> Experience with print design and color separation
>>> Experience creating brand identities
>>>
>>>
>>> Responsibilities
>>>
>>> Design print ads, online ads, and associated site landing pages  
>>> under
>> tight
>>> deadlines.
>>> Design, code, and standardize landing page,using HTML, CSS, and ASP.
>>> Engage in detailed quality assurance activities that include  
>>> proofing
>> copy
>>> Maintain internal documentation
>>> Assisting with creation of brand identity materials.
>>> Adhere to Extreme Programming practices
>>> Collaborate with vendors and outside parties as needed for  
>>> support or
>> design
>>> initiatives.
>>>
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