[IxDA Discuss] windows 3.x vs MacOs

[Simon Asselbergs]

There would be so much to say about usability of specific OS'es, then we might need new mailinglist to cover that topic. Why waiste any time about historical facts and ideological quarrels? Let's focus on the perspective of users on usable software products of to day. 

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jackbellis.com" <jackbellis at hotmail.com>
> To: discuss at ixda.org
> Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Semantics of The Elements of UX
> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:51:09 -0400
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> > Care to defend your statement a bit more?
> Dan,
> I'm not insensitive to your consternation, given all the stuff I too hate in
> Program Manager and its ilk. I'm just insensitive. (But I still want the
> dual-pane File Manager back. After giving up on PowerDesk, I was surprised
> to find my power-user coworkers using Servant Salamander, a dual-pane tool.)
> 
> I defend not Windows 3.x but what Windows 3.x added to the collective user
> experience. This is not a discussion of, or comparison between Gates and
> Jobs (or JJG, JN, etc.) . The designer in us all knows who made the "better"
> design but to the billions who use Windows, "better" is as relative as
> drinking water in the desert.
> 
> It is completly inapplicable to now load Win31 and critique it. In
> proportional terms, it advanced the cause of user friendliness more than
> might ever be equaled. Disparaging it would be equivalent to saying Henry
> Ford made shitty cars. On the same level, Microsoft VB in its first
> incarnation delivered more programming democracy than ever before and
> possibly might ever in the future. Thus Bill Gates's fortune, despite
> our- - - and my- - - jealous trashing of him. My arguments have nothing to
> do with Ux, but rather, with the promulgation of Ux.
> 
> 'know what I mean?
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Saffer" <dan at odannyboy.com>
> To: "ixda" <discuss at ixda.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Semantics of The Elements of UX
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> > [Please voluntarily trim replies to include only relevant quoted
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> >
> > On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:33 AM, jackbellis.com wrote:
> >
> >> Windows 3.1 took UI 10 steps
> >> forward and we've been taking big steps backwards ever since 1994.
> >
> > Wow. I can honestly say I have never heard anyone say that. Windows
> > 3.1? Really? I've used Windows 3.1 on several occasions as an example
> > of an awkward, clunky, and frankly bad design in the past. An
> > inelegant attempt to redo the Macintosh UI, which Microsoft finally
> > got right (sort of) in Windows 95.
> >
> > Care to defend your statement a bit more?
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
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Groetjes,

Simon


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