[IxDA Discuss] Illustrator vs Fireworks

[jay hilwig]

Is it an apt comparison? 
I group tools:
* Web Production *
  Fireworks
  Imageready
  Photoshop-'crossover'
* Vector *
  Illustrator
  Freehand
  Flash-'crossover'

I do not think Fireworks would stand up to Illustrator in a strict
comparison of vector/illustration functions the same way I don't think
Illustrator is meant for web/frame based design.

The Adobe CS/CS2 suite is vastly improved from 2000 and is likely worth a
download of the trial version.

_jay



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Illustrator 10 was a big jump forward from 9, so you may find a more recent
version more useful.
You can download and use a copy of the software from Adobe, good for 30 days
I believe.

Graham White

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Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 7:46 AM
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>
> Scott (and others),
> Not "disconnected" at all and you confirmed part of what I was after. I
> should have emphasized that I was addressing exclusively Illustrator's
> interaction design.
>
> (The 2000 version of) Illustrator that I'm using sucks by both 2006
> standards AND some standards from the 1500's: for example, repeated,
> parallel wording (15 "Show..." items on the Window menu; repeated parallel
> words on both an Effects and Filters menu). Too many inefficient
techniques.
> Low interactivity compared to other products. Very peculiar vector node
> editing, though I don't doubt it's powerful once you learn the secret
> handshake. (No, I don't expect its keystrokes to translate from other
> tools.) And the pièce de résistance for many Adobe products... the
wonderful
> help file from PDF hell.
>
> The Adobe toolset (all around) continues to strike me as WordPerfect
> redux... a relic of a "print"-centric company that has been at the top of
> the heap, but cannot possibly prevail were it not for buying out the
better
> software designers. That's what I'm trying to resolve.
>
> Someone please tell me its new version erases all these problems? (I don't
> need any recommendations on icon editors, but thanks for those.)
> -Jack
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Meier" <scott at scottmeier.com>
> >
> > Illustrator has always been one of those applications to me that I
> > just never understood why everyone used. It always seamed so
> > inefficient.
>
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