[IxDA Discuss] iPhone Human Interface Guidelines

[Jeffrey D. Gimzek]

you could also have a summary of selections in total under the  
controls that was updated dynamically - sort of a 'selections bread  
crumb'.


>> I guess once Google and Apple do anything, usability concerns  
>> magically
>> disappear.

well, at least they dont seem to be going broke from alienating users  
with poor experiences.

;)

(but then again, sans facetiousness, neither is Microsoft)

jd


On Oct 1, 2007, at 4:29 PM, Joe Lanman wrote:

> What about having a layout like:
>
>
> Main ingredients:
> [select]
>
>
> clicking [select] and choosing more than one option would result in:
>
>
> Main ingredients:
>   chicken    x
>   tomatoes  x
>   pasta       x
> [select]
>
>
> Selected options could be removed by clicking the x.
>
> This would push following content further down the page, but would  
> make
> selections clearer.
>
>
>
> On 01/10/2007, David Gee <david at mode3.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2007, at 7:07 AM, Jeff Stevenson wrote:
>>>> You'll find a page that describes a "multiple select element". It
>>>> looks like
>>>> a drop-down list, except I guess you can select more than one
>>>> option.
>> The <select multiple> element has been around since at least HTML  
>> 3.2,
>> possibly longer. For as long as I can remember, it's universally been
>> considered a usability nightmare - if you have any significant  
>> number of
>> items checked, it's very difficult to quickly determine what is  
>> and what
>> isn't selected. The default HTML implementation of the multiple  
>> select
>> widget also requires Ctrl or Shift clicking to select multiple items.
>> But then again...
>>
>> Jeffrey D. Gimzek wrote:
>>> google uses this in their new - hard to believe - recipe search  
>>> thing.
>>>
>>> see:
>>>
>>> <http://tinyurl.com/2ox7xw>
>>>
>>>
>> I guess once Google and Apple do anything, usability concerns  
>> magically
>> disappear. To be fair, Google's implementation is different - this  
>> is a
>> Javascript pull-down menu cleverly disguised to look like a select
>> element. It's a bit better, as they use checkboxes in place of
>> ctrl/shift clicking, but there's still no at-a-glance way to see  
>> what's
>> selected under that pulldown. They've done the best they could by
>> setting the mouseover tooltip to show everything that's selected.  
>> Still,
>> I'd never use this method for more than 10 options.

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Jeffrey D. Gimzek
Digital Experience Designer

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